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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 12:37:24 GMT -5
Asante said:{ From an economic and social view point Hispanics do not rock with black people. That is not "black paranoia", but common knowledge. The notion of black and brown pride is "beautiful" but it's not reality! Some black people are native with regards to the illogical contempt to non Africans have towards us.} But paranoia is exactly what it sounds like, pls review what some of what you wrote in this thread. You seem to not want to acknowledge that Hispanics have a insidious hatred towards black people that they only enact in the Western US where their numbers permit them to do so. If you don't see the issue in trusting people who think in those terms, then that's sad.
No they are being used as "tools" by white supremacist to act as sleeper cells in the black conscious community. The African immigrants are promoting the homosexual and intersectionality agenda's that the white liberal people who sponsor their immigration want to push onto black people. For example an African immigrant was included in the conscious community panel last year along with some other prominent black voices. Notice how she is pushing the white liberal, shae Butter agenda that publications like "The Root" (one that pretends to be black but is owned by a homosexual white male who pushes his agenda through black females, African immigrants pretending to be black, and anti black homosexual males) advocate for. Look how she has to be checked by Tariq Nasheed, and the entire audience cheered for Tariq's rebuttal towards her white liberal nonsense.
One of my business that I've had was a cleaning business that included a white church. This white church specializes in letting Africans come over here from poverty use their Church Saturday nights and throughout the week for whatever they had going on. The white people would pretend to care about the Africans taking phony pictures and putting them up all over the walls and ish. The Africans would eat that fake love up, and love white people from that point forward. That's what I mean when I say that many of these Africans are native. The same "race" of people of ravished your homeland to begin with you want to trust like nothing ever happened. Big Dummies! They didn't speak to "us" the Afro - Americans, and instead acted somewhat hostile to our presence. That's the game. They're bringing them over here to bolster them up over the native blacks here, to put in many peoples minds that there is something inheritedly wrong with the black people here. This makes genocidal sympathies more widespread...be real! Everyone knows about Haitians and Jamaicans immigrants. They do not want to be labeled as "black" or with us. Why are you acting like I can't pull a 4 hour video forum about their attitudes towards us. This is one of the most well known hostilities between Afro-Americans. Watch the videos that I posted above, and then come back with your nativity.
I highly doubt this is true, but if it is what city do you live in? We can easily check the census track to see just how "intermarried" the hispanic and black population is. I lived off ATL road in "Deville" apartment complexes across from Campbell middle (the former projects). Half of the population was Hispanic and the other half was black. We kept to ourselves and the Hectors kept to themselves. There was no conflict, but there was certainly cultural boundaries. We had Mexican girls as neighbors, we never knew their names. They were taught to turn their heads as they walked up the stairs into their apartment. I was a straight A student-Athlete at the time who never got in trouble! Their daddy was never playing that game! None the less I couldn't pretend to not know what the deal was. Coming from Kentucky to GA as a child, was a culture shock. The only Mexicans I saw were on the Brothers Garcia, which was a show that I loved. When I moved Cobb County, GA where half the school was black, a third Hispanic, followed by Asians then whites it shocked me. I HAD TO LEARN THAT BLACKS AND MEXICANS DON'T LIKE OTHER THROUGH BEHAVIOR. The 8th grade kiddy gangs like "SV" and all of that were formed by the blacks and "Sir" (Something) was the Mexican gang. They used to have major brawls. The Niggas of course would win, but I never saw things like that. None the less it was there.
Our fullback was a Mexican (only one on the team) named Geraldo. He was my homie! After the games I noticed how the niggas who were used to the culture would leave him high and dry after in the benches with his dad. I said F*UCK THAT, and would go sit with them after the games. The blacks would joke on me light weight and say, "awww you gonna go hang with your Mexican buddy". It was what it was, and it is what it is. I don't hate other people, but I love my people! When I see that other people have secret contempt towards my people, and wish to harm my people when they have the means to do so then I have to take a stand. Point blank period.
Yes I agree!
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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 12:40:14 GMT -5
ironically AAs were about the only Black group to be made honorary "Whites" in apartheid South Africa, yes they largely rejected the status..ain't gonna play Suncity. Interesting!
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Dec 17, 2018 14:40:40 GMT -5
Asante talks a good game but would pit Diasporans against Continentals and rank one superior to the other.
This is not the way of 'Black Nationalist' Liberation Struggle.
In fact, it is counter revolutionary and counter productive.
It is playing the Euro's divide and conquer ploy and is a measure of self-hate.
Akata comes from one particular language isn't widespread in use. As UMOJA is the 1st operative principle I, a Booty Scratcher as you'd call me, ignore, downplay, and condemn 'intramural' rivalry and hatemongering.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Dec 17, 2018 15:29:29 GMT -5
SW USA Chicanos and Mexicans are not all 'Hispanica'.
Hispanic is language.
Blacks come in Hispanic as well as Anglophone. And for exactly the same reason. The same trip on the same ship. Different western hemisphere ports of western debarquement, that's all.
Jamaican and other 'Caribbes' have inestimablely contributed to USA Liberation Struggle from before Garvey to after Gil. Guarantee you you'd never tell a born Jamerican from any other Maafa American. You can ask Notoriouss (if you believe there's Life After Death).
Divide and conquer SMH
But worse is the we need allies concepts. Allies are discardable tools. Allies just use each other. Also allies are on equal footing. If you're weak your ally will use you for all they can get and give you nothing but lip service
The Marxists flat out used blacks as their vanguard. Naive blacks thought it was something else to be the Vanguard of the Revolution. The vanguard is the first to get mowed down. A vanguard is dispensable, lauded used then thrown away.
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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 15:35:22 GMT -5
For starter homie I don't play games! I'm simply pointing out how Africans are being used by white liberals to fragment and ultimately dissolve black the new wave of black empowerment in the same ways that the "Feminist" movement was created by white women in the 1970's to directly undermine black unity after the gains of Civil Rights movement.
Again here is the proof of Africans being used as sleep cells in the black community to propagate a white liberal agenda. The African lady is the one in the green. She is advocating for the fragmenting of the black conscious community. There is absolutely no reason to divide ourselves among gay and feminist in a movement whose purpose is to unify and economically progress the Afro-American community. She had to be checked pretty harshly by Tariq after her little comments.
Some of the top comments; "That black feminist advocate is a detriment to are community!! We are trying to build together while there trying to divide us purposely!! " "That female in the green is an agent" "These feminist are counter productive These are the popular opinions in the black empowerment circle who are actually verified people. These people host and show up at events for these unapologetically black discussions. " So no I'm not "trying to divide Afro-Americans and Africans". Question when in the Hell were we EVER unified? If I'm not mistakenly one of the primary goals in Henry Kissinger's evil government plan (the Kissinger report) was to make sure that Africans and Afro-Americans never united economically or socially. I would think that a half a century later their diabolical plans would have cranked up a notch. Like bringing a few Africans over here, vet them (teach them who not to like), and prop them up to grow disposition between us. Some of my best friends are Africans by the way, but they are REAL. Those are the ones who I get alot of my historical knowledge from. I respect and love them, but f*ck a coon rather he/she be an African, retarded buckethead shucking and jiving; "ye ye yessa massa" pink c*ck sucker from the deep south, a self hating Negro who embraces the detriment of is community through selfishness, ego and willful ignorance (gangbangers); OR well presented propped up BOULE Afro-American Negro who capes for the Democratic Party more than their people (Roland Martin).
Well, first please use context in this discussion. That dude Africurious came into MY THREAD, and INSULTED ME. He did so because he is butt hurt over our last discussion in which I discussed African coons. He apparently thinks that I'm talking about all Africans (or maybe HE is a coon and I hit him directly), and tried to make that the case when it's clearly not. JULIUS MALEMA IS THE MAN!!! A PROUD AFRICAN WHO STANDS FOR HIS PEOPLE. FRIENDSHIP WITH FOES BE DAMNED UNDER HIS BANNER, AND HE IS WILLING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES IN. THAT'S MY TYPE OF BLACK AFRICAN!!!
I find people who try to demonize people who call out sleeper cells under the guise of "disunity" to be the most dangerous. I think that white people actively play roles in these discussion (as the title of this thread suggest) to gauge how real it is getting for Negroes mentally. Sometimes I think that when their sleep cells are called out the must defend their sleep cells, and act as though they belong in our empowerment movement. So hey... Some people have called the administration on this site, and many of the prominent posters...black loving white liberals, and ya know what....I think that is not out of the realm of possibility. There are no videos of these prominent posters or podcast or even pictures. Nothing. Beyoku for example knows that I am a muscular young black dude. He knows my name and even my genetics (which is scary now that I'm a little older). I'm not hiding who I am by any means. But some of these posters here....I must say it looks fishy and I've been thinking for years now. I'd love to lay that suspicion to rest however. Sleep cells like the feminist are the divide and conquer ploys used by white people! NOT THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THESE SLEEPER CELLS OUT! So I only used one example, that doesn't mean that their aren't others. In fact the word "Akata" was the only one that I thought that I could spell from the list of derogatory names that an African having this discussion was listing.
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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 15:39:04 GMT -5
Hispanic is language. Blacks come in Hispanic as well as Anglophone. Yes I'm vert aware of that fact, which is why I've been specifying MEXICANS, CENTRAL AMERICANS, AND SOUTH AMERICANS in this discussion. What about them?? Exactly. That's why Africurious's whole "they aren't that bad" bullsh*t needs to GO! They be so lost in this culture, but soooo opinionated on it. No one has time for that mess.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Dec 17, 2018 16:21:28 GMT -5
I ain't none your homie, youngblood. People like you call me Booty Scratcher. Never bothered me til you came along. Your akata hand points one finger outward while the other three point back at you and the plethora of negative adjectives you BA's call Continentals. (So the positive cooperative approach is to curtail that madness and build bridges. Try it sometime.)
No passive-aggressive signifying, like you do. I'm a man. I'll tell you straight up. You a hater and a wolf in sheep clothing.
You are like Jason throwing stones high in the sky hoping when they fall each man blames the next for hitting him in the head hoping like hell they can't see you the one turning them on each other. Now if that ain't your "white man's agent" no one is.
You are counter struggle. Born too late for the 60's and 70's playing the militant talking right on brother. But building life promoting institutions is really where revolutionary black struggle's at. Raving rhetoric can't do that.
Spreading a msg of one upsmanship and "if you disagree with me you ain't black you a agent". Makemefuckinglaugh. Weak minds will fall for that line of s h i t and mindlessly become your minion. Actual CoIntel agents used that tactic. Nobody conscious falls for that. Only those who can't think for themselves.
St Louis blacks are the pinnacle of your hierarchy. All others should strive to be St Louis. Take yr isolationist ass to Philly this summer and see harmonious black ethnies of all languages, religions, and what not @ Odunde.
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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 16:38:54 GMT -5
No passive-aggressive signifying. I'll tell you straight up. You a hater and a wolf in sheep clothing. Hating on who and what exactly? :Upmanship" what is that? I pointed out how white liberals (the other fang of the white supremacy serpent) is using divide and conquer, by making coons out of Africans, and bringing them over here to spread white liberal agendas, which of course is to the detriment of black empowerment. A prominent person is the prime example;
ISSA RAE IS A FIRST GENERATION AFRICAN AMERICAN - BORN TO NIGERIAN PARENT - WHO PUSHES A WHITE FEMINIST AGENDA. SHE HAS RECENTLY BEEN PROPPED UP ON THE VIACOM (WHITE OWNED) TV STATION BET FOR HER SHOW INSECURE, WHERE SHE PRETENDS TO BE A NATIVE AFRO-AMERICAN WITH THE WHITE LIBERAL AGENDA...THE ULTIMATE INFILTRATION INTO OUR CULTURE!
Not to mention that thread where "Anansi" got called out and accused of being white was very disturbing, because never was there a denial on Anansi's behalf with regards to the if he/she is white. Maybe she/he thought it was insulting to challenge their blackness, but still I would make it be known one way or another that I am black.
So whose hating? I'm simply pointing out a con game, and black folk from all spectrum are also seeing the con game. It's not hate, it's calling out a snake.
Scratches head at this analogy. "Take your ass to Philly"...WHAT PART? You sound like a clueless white guy who stereotypes the urban areas as "all black and all ghetto and all tough" GTFO. I can see plenty of violence in parts of ATL and in my hometown of Louisville, Kentucky which is now sadly the 11th most dangerous city in the US (it used to be the 6th safest a decade ago). I can go on Cecil and Greenwood or stand in front of Ali's old house on Grand if I want to see somebody get shot.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Dec 17, 2018 17:29:07 GMT -5
You and your ass so clueless you don't know Philly's Odunde and call yourself conscious?
You 'woke' watoto, SMH.
Again Take yr isolationist ass to Philly this summer and see harmonious black ethnies of all languages, religions, and what not @ ODUNDE.
You the one sound like a white man's agent trying to read gangbanging, ghetto, and internal violence into that.
2nd thought? Stay yr asz right there in your lil SL MO fishbowl where you can't contaminate the conscious liberation struggle via culture that Odunde pushes and represents.
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Post by africurious on Dec 17, 2018 18:03:41 GMT -5
Well I’m glad that someone else sees this fake loud mouth Asante for what he is. Why even use “Asante” when you’ve just said all kinds of despicable ish about Ghanaians? Fake know-nothing.
You don’t own any threads here fool so I don’t know what you’re talking about. And why you on a forum so heavily backed by immigrant blacks whom you claim are agents of the whiteman? Then you go on to say Africans are some of your best friends, smh. White ppl say that all the time after saying/doing prejudice stuff just like you do.
Funny thing is you keep flaunting how you’re native to the US and how black immigrants are coming here from poverty. Fool, being born here doesn’t stop you from being a 2nd class citizen lower than all white ppl including those who got here fresh off the boat. So what is there to show off about? 400 yrs and yo ass still ain’t equal to even white immigrants and some immigrant Asians who just got to the US today. Silly ignorant nativist.
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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 18:06:42 GMT -5
You and your ass so clueless you don't know Philly's Odunde and call yourself conscious? You 'woke' watoto, SMH. I don't claim that to know everyone, and I don't think that that is a marker of consciousness. Sure man. ..
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Dec 17, 2018 18:07:29 GMT -5
Please Africurious
Let's not be carried away by stone throwing Jason's madness.
It's not Maafa Descendants fault they remain 3rd class USA citizens. And even at that by many many standards they outstrip blacks who have their own countries.
Hail to the USA blacks!
They have struggled continuously since arriving on America's shores and the whole MFin' world is in their debt and not just for music and coolness.
Let Asante, who's not Ashanti, go on spreading hatred of one Afrikan for another. Let's us turn to something more positive now. The OP was promising. Too bad the thread degenerated into promoting self-hate and division among Afrikan peoples.
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Post by asante on Dec 17, 2018 18:21:31 GMT -5
Well I’m glad that someone else sees this fake loud mouth Asante for what he is. Why even use “Asante” when you’ve just said all kinds of despicable ish about Ghanaians? Fake know-nothing. That's actually my nickname. Never did I say anything despicable about Ghana. I ridiculed the president for "selling his people out". Did I say "F*ck the people"...NO! I stated that the president is an imbecile and treacherous to his people. That's because I have the most viewed thread in the forum's history. I've been a member of Egyptsearch I'm now banned from over there. Unless you went by another allias then I am not aware of any of your contributions to this forum or the old one mr."new nigga". Secondly when in the F*ck did I say that all African immigrants are coons? YOU have identified yourself as a coon in your second reply in this thread, by most conscious peoples standards. YOU are the embodiment of the white liberal loving - "we are all family" ignorant immigrant from Africa who I was talking about. Don't try to spread my criticism for blind white liberal loving coons like yourself to the whole population African immigrants. I am talking about a particular MINDSET not a people WHO I AM APART OF...! In my earlier post I also went into the types of AFRO-AMERICAN COONS who I despise, so don't try to make me out to be an "African" hater. I SIMPLY THREW A ROCK AND THE HIT DOG (YOU THE COON) HOLLERED. No hold on liar... YOU were the FIRST to imply that someone (I) was living in poverty. You took a shot at me, and stereotyped Afro-Americans. Yes I hit you back! If you can't take it then don't dish it. But here your goofy ass is coming to America to suck pink genitalia.
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Post by africurious on Dec 17, 2018 20:23:04 GMT -5
Please Africurious Let's not be carried away by stone throwing Jason's madness. It's not Maafa Descendants fault they remain 3rd class USA citizens. And even at that by many many standards they outstrip blacks who have their own countries. Hail to the USA blacks! They have struggled continuously since arriving on America's shores and the whole MFin' world is in their debt and not just for music and coolness. Let Asante, who's not Ashanti, go on spreading hatred of one Afrikan for another. Let's us turn to something more positive now. The OP was promising. Too bad the thread degenerated into promoting self-hate and division among Afrikan peoples. I agree we don’t need to tear down one set of blacks to uplift the other. I was trying to show that ignoramus that the nativism and citizenship he flaunts is hollow. I know it’s no black person in America’s fault we’re in the shituation we’re in.
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Post by africurious on Dec 17, 2018 20:38:03 GMT -5
No hold on liar... YOU were the FIRST to imply that someone (I) was living in poverty. You took a shot at me, and stereotyped Afro-Americans. Yes I hit you back! If you can't take it then don't dish it. I didn’t stereotype you. You were boasting about how you and your community got it poppin all paid for by a drug dealer and supposedly whites were jealous of this. Yet you had to go to their neighborhood just to get to a good gym. Idk anyone of decent financial means who’d boast in that way. So maybe check your ignant speech.
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